‘Andor’ Creator Tony Gilroy Talks Luthen’s Good Day, That Post-Credit Scene and Season Two 

‘Andor’ Creator Tony Gilroy Talks Luthen’s Good Day, That Post-Credit Scene and Season Two 

[This story contains spoilers for Andor season one. ]

Now that Andor season 1 is over, creator Tony Gilroy has already started season 2.

The showrunner of the critically acclaimed Disney Star Wars series is currently embarking on a shoot that will last through August 2023, but he still managed to carve out some time to answer some of the lingering questions from the season one finale.

“Rix Road” shows how the citizens of Ferrix were inspired by Maarva (Fiona Shaw’s) parting words via the hologram. They fought back against the Imperial forces who had been occupying their city for quite some time. Cassian (Diego Luna), who was determined to return home to attend his adoptive mother’s funeral, managed spot spymaster Luthen Ral (Stellan Skorsgard). Once he had freed Bix (Adria Arjona), he then sailed to meet the shadowy Rebel. Knowing that Luthen was looking for a way to tie up loose ends Cassian offered his life or his loyalty the Rebellion.

“It’s an important day for Luthen. He’s not proud of his ownership when he listens to Maarva’s speech. It’s just another corner of the farm that he’s trying grow. He’s proud to hear that,” Gilroy tells The Hollywood Reporter .. “And my God, to end the day and have this asset [Cassian] come in [who] basically says, ‘Alright. I’m in. Blood oath, that’s a pretty good-looking day, I think .”

A rare Star Wars scene in the episode’s post-credit confirms that Cassian, along with other Narkina 5 prisoners, were actually building components for the Death Star. This weapon will ultimately claim Andor’s life in Rogue One . Gilroy states that despite the introduction of Star Wars planet destroyer, it will still be a threat in the background of season 2. Its construction won’t take on an active presence.

“It’ll still pose a threat. Rogue One It’s all about finding out what it is. [Season 2 is] about who takes the last breadcrumbs that lead to Gilroy’s beginning.

A recent conversation with THR Gilroy also discussed why none of the season one’s directors will be returning for season 2.

Well, bravo, Tony.

Thank you. I bow down.

You’re a history buff so the funeral procession was turned riot/attack loosely founded on anything?

The first comp is somewhere in between those epic Provisional IRA Funerals. There’s footage of some of these funerals, and it’s amazing what they turn into. The second comp is a New Orleans second-line funeral procession. It’s a joy and soulful experience. These are the comps. There are also civic organizations such as the Daughters of Ferrix, and a community orchestra of aspirational musician. Anyone who is paying attention will notice that Dr. Mullmoy [Matt Dunkley] is the lead trumpet player in this band. You’ll see many people in the town. That’s how it all started.

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I was wondering why Fiona Shaw hadn’t seen Maarva for a while and why she died off-screen, but you answered my questions in the best possible way.

Were you surprised that she returned in the hologram

I was! I was!

That theory was true! I heard this theory and thought it was a great idea. Maarva was dead, but that’s not the truth.

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Was Fiona Shaw still present on the day to deliver her speech for the actors to hear?

We did not make that speech first.

The final exchange between Cassian, Luthen reveals that Cassian is ready to give his life to protect those he loves. “Or take me in,” also suggests that he is ready to take the Rebellion pledge. Is Luthen’s smile a sign of pride?

It’s a big day, for Luthen. It’s not pride of ownership when he listens to Maarva’s speech. It is, and it isn’t, but it’s another corner of his farm he’s trying to grow. He is very proud to hear that. Oh my God! To end the day and have this new asset come in — who has been through all of this stuff and is still standing and you managed to not kill — he basically says, “Alright, it’s okay, I’m in.” Blood oath” is a good day, I think.

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Diego Luna in Andor

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When I spoke to Denise Gough and Kyle Soller about their first days on Andor, they both described the setting in the finale. Did you shoot the finale the first time or did it only happen for certain actors?

We shot everything in Ferrix first so it’s possible that the finale was their first day. Tracking has always been the job of the writer, and it’s been my job every movie I’ve worked on. Although it’s a smaller task, it’s still very complex. It is essential that you can track the story from beginning to end. You must be able to track where you are in the story at any time. This is a huge advantage for writers-directors. Even if they don’t know how to use the camera or any other equipment, they have an advantage because they are the only person who knows where you are at all times. It’s complicated on a show like this. Directors are often called in for blocks and, justifiably, they only care about the show in front of them. Sometimes they don’t pay much attention to what’s ahead or behind them. Sometimes, it’s necessary to do such things. One of my jobs is to ensure that these things are done correctly. However, the actors are very adept at tracking. They trust me and have great conversations about where they’re at. That was probably their first day, which is a difficult scene to shoot first.

I’ll say.

You don’t want an actor to come back three months later and say, “Well, I wish I’d known that.” When you shoot a scene in late-season, you don’t want them to regret it. You don’t want that to happen. It hurts.

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Denise Gough and Kyler Soller in Andor

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Mon Mothma was created by Genevieve O’Reilly to claim that her husband’s gambling is the reason for the money missing from her account.

That’s the first person to bring it up. That is a wonderful thing. Thank you.

Why did she continue with the Sculdun family arrangement (Richard Dillane), even though she had already planted that gambling-related coverstory?

She’s trying to cover all the bases. Sculdun initially came in and said, “Oh, I know you husband.” So, Sculdun may conclude that this is really about her husband’s gambling debts. He doesn’t know the real purpose. She’s only covering the bases, but that’s what I’m implying. Peerin [Alastair Mackenzie] can take it off of her if anyone is interested.

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Genevieve O’Reilly, Bronte Carmichael, Alastair Mackenzie in Andor

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The post-credit scene confirms Narkina 5 was actually constructing components for the Death Star. The post-credit scene confirms that the Death Star’s construction will be more active in season 2. Or will it remain a looming threat in its background?

It will still be a threat. Rogue One It’s all about finding out what it is. [Season 2 is] about who takes the last breadcrumbs that lead to Rogue One HTML1. Rogue , Cassian visits the Ring of Kafrene in order to meet Tivik. He says, “Oh My God, it’s an planet killer.” Cassian is a skeptic, but he’s still looking for answers. We’ll cover the breadcrumbs that lead to that, sure. We have a situation in which Cassian won’t know that the machine he was building is actually going to kill him.

Do you intend to create any new scenes that fit within Rogue One‘s timeline, be it a new perspective on an existing scene or a new in-between moment?

We’re going to follow a linear path. He will be the one walking out to board the ship and going there. We’re not going into Rogue One ..

If money were not an object, would you have been willing to show the Kreegyr ambush.

I wouldn’t if it weren’t for the grammar of our show. Our grammar is very strict. I wouldn’t go to a place without establishing Kreegyr, as a speaking character or someone we’ve been with, or any other peripheral characters who’s there or something. We never go anywhere where one our characters isn’t leading us to it, [Death Star] Easter eggs aside. There are some extreme cases like this. Even with our camera, we are very strict about what we allow ourselves in the limited perspective we have. Most likely not. I would take the Kreegyr money you’re giving to me and put it elsewhere.

Did Bix get the Anto Kreegyr/Axis question on screen?

Although the scene ends before anything else, she’s literally breaking down there. She doesn’t know what to do. She doesn’t know what they want.

Composer Nick Britell wrote the funeral march, right?

This was the first thing we did together. We didn’t even know each other. This was the first project we did together before we started shooting. That and some Ferrix banging were our first projects. We didn’t see one another for six months, but that was the first time we saw each other. That was how we fell in love.

Season two will have three episodes arcs that will cover a year. But how will that work? Are there time jumps between episodes?

They are super condensed. They are three days, four, two weeks, four, and four days respectively. They are very tight. It’s cool. It’s the best part about it. You can go away for one year, then come back Friday, Saturday, and Sunday to jump for another year. They won’t be spread apart. It won’t be as if block two is spread over another year. They are very focused, which is great. Then you need to account for all the negative spaces and what happened in between.

You started the series by Cassian asking about his sister. Maarva tried to discourage him later from looking further. This thread will be retold at some point.

That’s TBD. That’s a question I don’t want to answer.

You didn’t bring back any of the season one’s directors despite their outstanding work. You wanted more of the same energy that you felt was so successful in the first season. [Writer’s Note: Ariel Kleiman, Janus Metz and Alonso Ruizpalacios will be directing on season two. ]

We tried so hard. Ben [Caron] didn’t want to come back because he had his movie [Sharper] with Julianne Moore. He is now a big feature director and wants to see how his feature goes. We also wanted Toby [Haynes] to come back really badly, but he got jammed up on Black Mirror. We had to pull the trigger because he couldn’t make a decision in the time we needed.

It’s very hard getting directors. There are many people shopping for the same people every day, and there is only so many people. This show is not easy. This job is not for the faint of heart. Because people need to be experienced, it’s a smaller group. There are a lot of shows, and everyone is looking for people. Many people have a psychological handicap. They say, “Oh! I don’t want season two.” We’re like, “This is not season 2. It’s a whole different thing.” So it’s a lot work to get directors. It was much more difficult than I thought.

Once you wrap season two, do you think you’ll be open to developing more Star Wars projects without being the showrunner or point man?

It’s a question I could not even begin answering. It’s impossible to know. It doesn’t feel like that to me. It seems that at the end five years, I will want to do something different. I mean, I like to do something different. Although I have never attempted to do the same thing twice, I wouldn’t say never, no or nothing. I know that I don’t know.

What was the most important lesson you took from season one and how will it apply to season 2?

It’s being confident that all the energy and obsessive vibes we have created can carry us through another season. The second jump from the plane is more frightening. Although it is easier the first time, your naivety will carry you through. What makes it more terrifying is knowing that there is a great community and vibe. Everyone is a filmmaker. These people respond when you give them space and enough money to do what they do best. Don’t waste money, just put the shit onto the screen. It’s a great feeling to know that there is a community that works.


Andor is now streaming on Disney . This interview was edited to ensure clarity and length .

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